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Bm3 stage 1 vs stage 2 n55 25 recorded knocks in <10 mins), which is really bad. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. Is there a primer, or some crib notes available somewhere? Appreciate 1 M I have Stage 2 BM3 93 octane, OTS maps are the best out there in my opinion. The costs of bm3 tunes are as follows: 1. but two others i know were on bm3 ots stage 1 and blew their n20. 6 posts MHD N55 EWG Stage 1 dyno results are pretty disappointing. Quote. Appreciate 0 Quote 05-03-2020, 05:53 PM #3: AccordTR. I've done my due Full exhaust of N55 + catless Crank hub 2 pins Oil lever sensor with spacer of M4 GTS Bm3 results: Stage 2H Ron95 550hp Stage 2H Ron98 610hp Maintenance: Engine oil every 5. 8 MPH and a 60-130 of 6. Location: Winnipeg Bootmod2 Stage 2 OTS vs. Bootmod3 N55 removes engine restrictions imposed by manufacture. Posts. 96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! Youtube: @ n55david For videos or Racing etc New Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 2+ OTS maps are now also available featuring 4 integrated map slots, flex fuel, antilag and all the CustomROM features. com/ef899GET AN ADDITIONAL 5% OFF IF YOU USE MY PROMO CODE: AyyymanOBD to Ethernet: https://amzn. Mods Recommended: Intake + Catless DP. It's harder in everything. All things being equal, and the pump working as it should, most of these OTS tunes should be making 360-400whp with all supporting mods (DP/intake/FMIC) as we've been seeing from BM3/MHD from day 1. Dragy times show the 91oct and 93oct stage 1 maps are the slowest, but basically no difference between the 93+ stage 1 and stage 2 maps. I would rather run stage 1, happy that I'm not maxing everything out and potentially causing problems down the line. e. Quote 04-17-2021, 07:32 PM Title states GTS vs Stage 1, just wanted OP to know that the GTS map doesn't really add power. 2. 9 a few times with this combo and just boltons which is pretty impressive to me. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations BMW 3-Series (E90 E92) Forum > E90 / E92 / E93 3-series Powertrain and Drivetrain Discussions > N55 Turbo Engine Tuning and Exhaust Modifications - 335i Tuning > MHD Stage 1+ vs Stage 2 Thread Tools: Search this Thread 10-09-2019, 07:56 I have done stock, stage 1 93, stage 1 E30 and stage 2 E30 with catless primaries and secondaries. F40Model Year: 2019 + 2JZ, M48. I spoke with n55 ewg pure turbo stage 1. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 Lusso F90 M5 Downpipes/Intakes/Midpipes| Bootmod3 N55/S55/N63TU/S63TU Dealer ! Appreciate 1 FSociety 3873. I just had the Active Autowerke high flow catted downpipe installed and am I've been comparing a Pure stage 1 versus stage 2 turbo upgrade on a 2017 M2 EWG, and all I can seem to find are multiple threads suggesting not to bother with a stage 1 as the gains are insignificant and to head straight to I've seen what you have but from the MHD side of things. com/jerryjuarez96?igshid=19xmgi3455b2w2015 BMW M4 F82 6 spd MT stock stage 1 BM3 vs20 Not my video, reposting for awareness. Join Date: Aug 2019. 99mph w/bm3 - SOLD 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. Very surprised with the dyno results. 5, May 10 2023: - Sport display max values increased to match power and torque. If you’re not prepared for the small chance of it or the turbos giving out I’d say stick with BM3 stage 1. 0 issues and still on stock plugs. So we are talking about around 10hp and 10ft-lbs going from stage 1 to stage 2 with a hfc. Just not certain as to which plug and coil -- The Bosch has worked well but Eldor and NGK are looking superior. Drives: e92 I was running the BM3 Stage 2 91 octane tune, and the xHP Stage 3 transmission tune. The 335i N55 EWG version with the new boost strategy was released as the standalone (non-MultiMap) Stage2+ E30 Release 7. I am not trying to squeeze every last bit of power from my cars 2018 BMW M2 LCI BM3 Stage 2 + MPE + FTP charge pipe + MST V2 Inlet + TurboSmart DV + CSF FMIC + AA Hi-flow Downpipe + Turner Rear Shifter Bushing + Wiechers Strut Brace + Bilstein B16 PSS10 + Apex VS-5RS Stage 1 93: up to 22%HP / 23%TQ Stage 2 91: up to 23%HP / 26%TQ Stage 2 93: up to 24%HP / 26%TQ Stage 2 E30: up to 26%HP / 26%TQ *** BM3 WiFi Adapter or OBD ENET cable required, available separately *** 2019+ S55 I personally run BM3 Stage 2 E30 (AGG) on the B58 platform and it always puts a smile on my face. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Hey guys I have a 2013 F30 N55 PWG with bootmod3 stage 1 93 and when cruising with everything in comfort there’s a hesitation/stutter and an occasional grinding sound. 308. waqas96; Dec 15, 2024; Troubleshooting; Replies 3 Views 244. If you’re not excited for the stage 1 tunes then you may consider upgrading your downpipe and opting for the stage 2 options. Pure Stage 2 Turbo OTS maps (up to 460HP / 650NM) 91oct/95ron, 93oct/98ron, 95oct/102ron; Full E85 Stage 1 and Stage 2 maps (up to 400HP - fuel system limited) Full E85 Stage 2+HPFP (up to 450HP) N55 PWG (pneumatic wastegate) Bm3 stage 2 93oct vs mhd stage 2+ Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection. 13. F40Model Year: 2019 + stage 1 and am about to bolt on a Fabspeed 200CEL sport cat and Wagner EVO2 Competition intercooler and flash to BM3 stage 2. Initially tried st0 m2 but fеlt no difference. Otherwise personal choice on upgrade. So I'd wait for that if you can or need it. Stage 2+ Multimap OTS map, with the presence of a Flex Fuel Sensor, scales all the way up to full E85 content fuels for those with upgraded HPFPs installed that can flow the required fuel volumes If the stock fuel pump can't keep up with an OTS Stage 2 file, unfortunately that's an issue with that particular vehicle. com/Wirele bootmod3 CustomROM Tuning - S55, N55-EWG, N55-PWG, N55-M2, Gen1 B48 and B58, Gen2 B48 and Gen2 B58, and S58 Engine Support. Appreciate 0 Huge difference Stage 1 and stock like a totally different car at least for me +1 This never came from PTF mouth as I remember being 1 of the early N55 beta customers and had friends with M2 join up. 8 BAR (26psi) 12 degree timing I'm going to show you everything I had to buy to tune my F30 BMW 335i to stage 1 and stage 2, along with all the costs involved and how you can save money tu SocraticSeaUrchin N55 - 450whp - any high-clearance lips pls? • Additional comment actions. 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. 95@124. The difference between stage 1 and stage 2 is minor. 2, April 20 2023: B48-F-L (B48 gen 1): - Sport display max values rescaled on multimaps. E30 or Racegas: 510-530whp / 550-570wtq. 00, N55. Talk about feeling a difference! Stage 2 peaks around 19-20 psi, but the catless dp does free up a ton of power. 32. Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection . There are 3 (reputable) companies that offer stage 2 setups: Pure, Vargas, and Steam Turbochargers. Dorch just announced a lift kit for the N55 which will flow more than stage 2. _____ The forest was shrinking, but the Trees kept voting for the Axe, for the BM3 stage 1 N55 vs B58. 000km, no issue. com/SkrrtUse “SK10” for 10% OFF. I'm just trying to run bm3 stage 2+ e30 multimap and a hpfp is required hardware. Stage 2 E20 Map: 365-380whp / 410-430wtq. 96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! Youtube: @ n55david For videos or Racing etc Finally got the CarBahn stage 1 tune on my M2. 00. I'm already FBO with a Dorch Stage 2 HPFP and a BM3 Flex Fuel kit. Appreciate 2 N55 Stage 2+ tune - reliability? Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 11-13-2020, 05:34 PM #1: ekkathewrekka. _____ BM3 stage 1 N55 vs B58. Definitely looking to get a high flow DP soon and move up to stage 2 to see that increase too. 8 psi as mentioned above. I can find N54 dyno results all day, its the N55 I am looking for. etc. Anyway, I was having some problems getting the burbles right, and V2. Is it okay to go with 2 steps colder spark plugs for Stage 2 or should I go with 1 step colder and what gap size? Also, is it possible for flames to shoot with new spark plugs? BM3 stage 2 (agg)/ Bms intake/ Vrsf catless Dp Hey y'all. 113. g. More Power: Max gains up to 95 WHP / 120 lb-ft of torque on the base N55 using 104 octane. Stage 2+ has huge gains over stage 2 and you can get a TU fuel pump for like $300. He says he has done 100s of conversions and never had 1 single scenario where the end user wasn't blown away by the overall quality difference in the tune itself. Appreciate 0 Quote 08-21-2018, 08:12 PM #16: horsepower_and_hounds BM3 Stage 1 vs Stock, Dyno results - Page 2. Not much of a difference as the M2's N55 is already a bit more swift than the regular N55. 91 Octane: 485-500whp / 520-540wtq. Very minimal gains over stage 1. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations F30POST > Technical Forums > N55 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > BM3 Stage 2 AGG vs Stage 2 Post Reply. G42Model Year: 2021 + F44Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F22 N55 PWG Hesitation/ Stutter under acceleration - BM3 stage 1 93. im running BM3 stage 2 and trans flash but ive heard MHD has less timing corrections and might be a slightly better overall tuner, dont really have any complaints with bootmod3 but if you get MHD you will have to spend an additional 300ish on an M2 Technical Topics > N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > Bootmod3 - M2 Stage 2 Post Reply. My biased opinion votes MHD Flashing your N55 with BM3 can unlock extra 33% BHP and 45% Torque. 607. If we are talking about PWG car. 000km Gearbox oil every 30. BM3 Stage 2 93 vs. N54 to N55. 5 to 18 psi is a solid jump. The new stage 2. Our Industry Leading N55 Pure Stage 2 for E-Series & F-Series N55 Generation BMW platform [ 2009 – 2019 E/F-Series Chassis ] M2 Technical Topics > N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > BM3 Stage 1 - What to expect? Post Reply BM3 Stage 2, VRSF Charge Pipe, Schroth quick fit, Vorshlag CC plates, Apex 18x10, BMS Clutch Stop. If I had to guess it was probably making 360whp and a bit over 420lb/ft of torque to the wheels, since the earlier N55's run the PWG turbo which spool Stage 1 vs Stage 2 doesnt have that big of a torque difference. Only mod is an ER charge pipe. 1810 posts · Joined 2017 Add to quote; Only show this user Hey all, N55 M2 looking for turbo upgrade advice: Just ordered a Pure Stage 2 Turbo with the upgraded DV and inlet pipe, Spool Stage 3 LPFP, 3. bootmod3 N55 Tune Package | BMW F-Series M135i, M235i, M2, 335i, 435i, 535i, ActiveHybrid 3, 640i, 740i, X3, X4, X5, X6 bootmod3 or BM3 is a Cloud-based BMW tuning platform with a web-based interface and mobile apps for iOS and Android. BM3 $595 includes FREE Updates/Logging/Full Features and 1 OTS Map of choice (Any Stage you want and Free OEM Calibration like M2 calibration for N55 or tons of other for S55 that are available) - OTS for Stock Turbo and Upgraded Turbo (MHD only offers Stock Turbo Map, Upgraded Turbo cars requires a Custom Tune) Stage 1 E20 Map: 330-340whp / 360-370wtq. The interface is also very easy to use. Feels the stronger and better map. So 20 hp and 10 ft lbs for $750 if that is cost is a judgement call. First upgrade was a Wagner catted DP, a Dinan intercooler, and a Dinan intake. But unless a tuner looks at your logs and tells you to swap to a different plug on the M2 stock N55 BM3 Stage 1 Knock Logs. Thinking of Changing Plugs & Coils now that I am near 70k miles. I saw the knock detected on stage 2 93 octane since then I’m on stage 1 ACN91 thinking it’s my gas (North East USA). BM3, MHD, ECUTek Calibrator | N55/S58 specialist | 2023 X5 45e Frozen Marina Bay Blue. B48 bm3 Stage 2 HP Gains & Mods. Flashing your N55 with BM3 can unlock extra 33% BHP and 45% Torque Stage 2 Racegas: 33%HP / 45%TQ. I ran stage 1 on the B46/8 on a 330i with no issues but it was 50/50 for stage 2 so I stayed away. Appreciate 0 Quote 02-22-2022, 11:58 PM #10: uhdimzy. Appreciate 1 Redacre 397. Attached Images _____ 2018 BMW X5 35i X Drive 2019 Honda Civiv Si coupe 2009 Yamaha FZ6R. Appreciate 0 Quote 03-07-2019, 09:08 AM #22: este. Stage 2 you need a downpipe. Last edited by Kilabyte; 04-17-2021 at 08:22 PM. For Map Editor update details refer to this document: we’re now releasing the new Stage 1 and 2 CustomROM based maps with integrated Flex Fuel support! Stage 2 91: 440hp/487ft-lbs (24% and 32% respectively) If you figure those are optimistic/generous numbers and stage 2 is using a catless downpipe instead of a high flow catted downpipe, let’s cut those gains in half. 50 New Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 2+ OTS maps are now also available featuring 4 integrated map slots, flex fuel, antilag and all the CustomROM features. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2011 F10 Shuenk N55+ Turbo'd is SOLD. Stage 2 E30 Question. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations SOLD! 435i- Cary Jordan E30 Tune~ Dinan Turbo~ BM3 trans tune~ XDI-35~ 3. Appreciate 3 NYBulldog I am usually around 15 -16 psi full boost on Stage 1 BM3. DCT cars are faster BMW 3-Series and 4-Series Forum (F30 / F32) | F30POST > Technical Forums > N55 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > BM3 Stage 2 Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 02-05-2019, 11:00 PM # Just curious if I would be able to run BM3 stage 2 with a stock downpipe? I know they recommend a catless/high flow catted dp it but - Stage 1 Bootmod3 - N55 1-Step Colder NGK 97506 Spark Plugs - Ignition Coils - Burger Cold Air Intake - Performance air filter - VRS Race Intercooler The BM3 stage 1 tune bumped it up to peak of 18 psi. We set this to smoothing 0 to match what we posted before: N55 bricked after trying to install 2. So far I have a g plus stepped intercooler, vrsf chargepipe, and have an afe intake on the way. Bootmod3 License https://mashimarho. Expect the What I will say is, the power difference from standard to stage 1 is massive. In 2nd gear at WOT I make 15 initially and then it drops to about 11-12 by the time I shift at redline, then in 3rd gear I'm making about 14-14. STAGE 1 DYNO TESTING The 135i is using 100% OEM hardware, with an MHD N55 Stage Hey folks, I’m comparing maps between BM3 Stage 1 91 and Stage 91 ACN91, and I’m looking for input from others. Rep. Expect about 485-530whp on stage 2 S55 bm3 tunes. Appreciate 1 jkourie 34. S55 OTS Stage 1 and Stage 2 pump gas maps are now officially available through bootmod3. Remember, your MPPK tune is bypassed which means it's Stage 2 tune is not different from a standard N55 that running the MHD Stage 2 tune. I installed CP and IC before moving to stage 1 just to keep from parts failing hopefully. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 Bm3 stage 2 on N55 EWG runs 16. In this blog post, we will cover everything from power output and installation experience to 0-60mph, 1/4 mile times, and 60-130mph testing. 40@132. It looks like no one has anything. Version 1. Mods Recommended: Intake + DP. Stage 2H E30 octane: 447WHP/452WTQ Stage 2+ E30 octane: 501WHP/512WTQ Stage 2H is our previous OTS map that maxes the stock HPFP. Appreciate 0 Quote 03-16-2019, 12:31 PM #3: lordinfamous666. Post Reply. First graph is Stock (281 hp) vs stage 1 93 oct (301 hp) Second graph is Stock (281 hp) vs stage 0 M2 tune (312 hp) Ok, I flashed my wife's x5 f15 n55 stock with bm3 st1 93. However, the stage 2+ will mostly target slightly more aggressive parameters to pick up a few horsepower. G42Model Year: 2021 + F44Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F22 . I have put plenty of miles since and does not seem that charge pipe or sparkplug will be an issue. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 M2 Technical Topics > N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > First impressions of BM3 Stage 1 (Updated with Stage 2 impressions) M235i bootmod stage 1 or 2 reliability. I chose not to push things to the limit. Several posts talk about the BM3 Stage 1 being essentially the same power and dyno results as the stock M2 tune. The power must be crazy. I have heard positive reviews from MHD as well. My B58 seems to like the higher boost pressure and lower timing I'm seeing with these stage 2 and higher octane maps. Second Lieutenant . Appreciate 0 Quote EDIT 2/28/19: So BM3 released V2. 5 till 6500 RPM. Holy thread revival Batman! by itself, to make any conclusions. F. I'm currently getting Ecutek, I was on a tune from Gintani before. _____ Check out our current sale by clicking on this link! https://x-ph No idea on the BHP. Electronic waste-gate (EWG) models are more capable than PWG, so gains will be quite a bit higher. So if I log MM Stage2 Release 1. The above is what's holding me back, I've read that there isn't a huge difference between stage 1 and the MPPSK my 340i already has, and that I should go straight to stage 2, which will need $$ for BM3, catted downpipe (I won't do catless), and a resonator. So I planned on getting an Active Autowerke catted downpipe, a Wagner EVO II Comp FMIC, FTP Charge I'm curious what exactly is the difference between the two, i. 1 BAR of boost (1. VF Engineering said that Hex Stage 1 is 24psi, and Stage 2 is 26psi. 96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! Youtube: @ n55david For videos or Racing etc. Stage 2+ Multimap OTS map, with the presence of a Flex Fuel Sensor, scales all the way up to full E85 content fuels for those with upgraded HPFPs installed that can flow the required fuel volumes. Stage 2 E30 Question Post Reply Thread Tools: Search this Thread 05-17-2021, 03:44 PM Here's an overlay against the previous Stage 1 93 octane map including the original stock baseline. However contemplating buying a TU pump and going straight to stage 2+. Page 1 of 2: 1: 2 > Thread Tools: Search this Thread 06-14-2022, 11:30 AM Based on Dzenan's response, I'm not sure how Stage 2 can be the same as Stage 1; the difference is pretty obvious in regular driving, though maybe it is based on exhaust valve position which he didn't mention. 3. I have heard MHD runs a higher boost than bm3. 5 to 1psi in the mid-range. An addition of a catless downpipe for stage 2+ tunes adds quite a bit BM3 for sure. Join Date: Jun 2018. Hmu on Ig: @n55_shayan. - for 5% more. The stage 2 B48 tunes B58-F Stage 2+ E50 octane OTS update: Version 2. The Stage 1 91 map “feels” better to me, but I seem to have slightly more timing correction. the maps are bought through third-party tuners. Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection. 17 April 2023: B58 Gen 1 Multimap stage 2+ update: 91 octane map slot has been added to map 1: Map 1: 91 octane N55 electronic wastegate (EWG): Stage 1 91 octane: 25%HP / 28%TQ Stage 1 93 octane: 27%HP / 30%TQ I recommend an intercooler on any stage, since you already have all the other mods, get a race intercooler and go stage 2 Stage 2 91 octane: 31%HP / 34%TQ Stage 2 93 octane: 33%HP / 36%TQ _____ Yesterday we had an outing and an hour drive there and back so contacted the insurers and flashed Stage 2 (stage 1 BM3 equivalent) and off we went. For that price, you aren't going to beat it. 5 (regardless of the gear). Usually the turbo inlet breaks instead. Getting traction down off the line with stage 1 or 2 is a total nightmare! The difference in boost pressures was much larger than I was expecting. 2013 F30 335i xDrive M-Sport 6MT (FBO/BM3 custom tune by HCP, 91 oct, 550i clutch, xDelete) Pure Stage 2 Dyno N55 335i. Either way you will get absolutely insane power gains from stock if you have the supporting mods to go up the tune stages for either one. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 M2 Technical Topics > N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > BM3 Stage 1 vs Stock, Dyno results Post Reply Anyways, ~400whp is pretty darn impressive on a conservative stage 1 tune. Troubleshooting Thursday at 4:01 PM. Running Stage 2+. 68. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. Location: Australia. Appreciate 0 Tweet. _____ BMW M340i-Stg 2 Full Flex (Ecutek), N55 Hybrid / '14 ActiveHybrid3 Stage 1 Tune. _____ Current 23 G80 M3x | 20 X7 M50 They don't have a flash for the B58, only the N55/S55. stage 1 tune can be done with no supporting mods, stage 2 with a dp or intercooler, and they have a stage 2+ tune for a dp and intercooler. fstbtstr. Third is Stage1 vs M2 tune. XHP Transmission Flash: https://www. BM3 Pros:-Resale value > You can sell the tune when you are done with it although its one time XHP Stage 1 is basically stock, it only removes torque limiter and adds the gear you are in while in drive mode. Datalog n54 stage2 BM3 GTS VS Stage 1 OTS Maps. 022 gapped plugs. 87mph w/bm3 2015 335i xDrive 10. E81 / E82 / E87 1) Yes gauges will change 2) More on BM3's obd unlock very soon! Custom BM3 maps can be created with current 4 entirely independent maps embedded into one with separated settings for load/torque/boost, ignition timing, fueling, knock sensitivity, iDrive gauges and burble. My car has pretty gross logs so I usually run ~e40 in my car to help with the timing corrections. Timdangelo33. Ever since I got the car I haven't changed the spark plugs. Bought the car around 45k mileage, sitting right around 85k miles now. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21 I went Dorch Stage 2 with the BM3 Stage 2+ E50 map. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations 2014 F30 335i, M-Sport, 6MT, V804s, custom exhaust, CTS Turbo Intake & IC, FTP CP, VRSF DP, TMS Strut Brace, BM3 Stg 2, AEM WMI, H&R Sport Springs (381 whp, 429 wtq on Cali 91oct before Had this been an N54 or N55 it would've been suffering due to really poor dyno room airflow conditions and ambients. M4 LCA/TS - MPE - Motech Stance - xHP 3 - BM3 Stage 1 - Powerflex + Brace. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model On the burgertuning web site they claim that the N55 stage 1 will provide up to 40hp at the wheels, and the N55 JB4 will provide up to 60hp at the wheels. I will start with what I know which is not much. All else constant, stage 2 maps will run a couple PSI more than the stage 1 maps. _____ Instagram: rjd_f30 | Current: EBII 2013 335i 6MT RWD & Sprint Blue 2008 Audi RS4 | Retired: 2013 328i, 2000 XTerra, 2022 Civic Si | Should have stage 1 done with intercooler and m performance exhaust by December. 1 of stage 2 for the N20 in December 2018, I only just got around to flashing it late February . F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year: 2012 - 2018. I'll post a base line and the We wrote an article about the N55 PWG vs EWG here. 4. Can you run the OTS Stage 1 multimap without a flex-fuel setup or on regular 91/93 octane? Can you create your own switchable maps? For example, if I wanted my stock tune for valet or family, stage 1 91, stage 1 93, etc? 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. 3 with both set to 93 map OTS Stage 2 Map 93 Oct AGG I was Stage 1 for maybe 3 weeks before I went FBO. I'm not sure where the boost is being measure at but they posted a dyno previously showing the boost curve. Is this all I need? a Wagner EVO II Comp FMIC, FTP Charge pipe/Boost Pipe/Inlet Pipe, and Dinan intake to go M235i FBO BM3 Stage 2 Review / Disappointing Results. Quote Dorch recently changed the Stage 1 target HPFP PSI to ~2900 to help with cold weather chirping, and it has also seemingly given my little Stage 1 a little more headroom, so I'm happy about that. 869 60ft F30 8AT RWD N55 EWG MHD Stage 2+ 93 Octane xHP Stage 3 ER CP & DP CSF FMIC NGK 97506 gapped to whatever they were out of the box 17 m2: CSF Turbo FMIC, Fabspeed DP, BM3 Stage 2, VRSF Charge Pipe, Schroth quick fit, Vorshlag CC plates, Apex 18x10, BMS Clutch Stop. E81 / E82 / E87 / E88Model Year: 2004 - 2011. Timing I went from stock to adding all mods and Stage 2 BM3 and it was a massive difference. Description BMW N55 Pure Stage 2. Mostly looking at timing correction and difference between boost/target boost. Stage 2 Mhd N55? Hello everyone, I'm wondering whether I should go stage 2 on mhd with my 2015 335i. I’m sure users with more technical knowledge on the Special thanks to Jerry suarezfollow him on instagram https://instagram. I'm trying to decide which turbo direction to go and what fuel issues will come into play. and it has been about 33000 miles. I am currently on the BM3 Stage 2, 91 octane map with Intakes, Charge Pipes, catless down pipes, and 2 step colder . New Member. Page 1 of 2: 1: 2: Next Thread Tools: Search this Thread BM3 Stage 2, VRSF Charge Pipe, Schroth quick fit, Vorshlag CC plates, Apex 18x10, BMS Clutch Stop. 50. B58 bm3 Stage 2 HP Gains & Mods. Major . Can we compile all the pros and cons of bm3 vs mhd that you know of as of now? Since this is a VS thread, there is no need to list pros that they share. Stage 1 doesn’t need any supporting mods Stage 2 requires a downpipe Stage 2+ requires downpipe and HPFP. Stage 2+ Multimap OTS map, with the presence of a B58 is a beast of an engine but can still give out especially with high mileage. Mods: -VRSF Race Intercooler/charge pipes-Pure Stage 1 Turbo-Burger Motorsports Intake-Turbosmart BOV I'm currently running stage 1 bm3 with vrsf charge pipe and intercooler (just to be safe) and was thinking about getting downpipes so I can go stage 2. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model 2014 435 xdrive, running BM3 Stage 1 93 in the Northeast regionabout 50-mid 60s in temp this time of year. Dinan Stage 1 performance software includes a limited lifetime warranty against defects in the software and provides free updates and reflashes as they become available. We also know that M2 N55s can suffer from bad heat soak when driven hard and power number suffer badly under these conditions. 5psi ) - Valet map Map 2: E30 OTS map Map 3: 1. N55 electronic wastegate (EWG): Stage 1 91 octane: 25%HP / 28%TQ Stage 1 93 octane: 27%HP / 30%TQ First impressions of BM3 Stage 1 (Updated with Stage 2 impressions) Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection. As far as mods go, I’m running the tune, xHP Stage 2, and a K&N drop-in. Building a 2018 Golf R! Appreciate 2 BettyFkinCrocker 181. Unless you are upgrading turbo, fuel, meth 2017 m240i xDrive 10. So Typically MHD S2+ cars (at least on the other N55 platforms) top out at 375WHPthis is abnormal. I have OEM spark plugs and an OEM charge pipe. 96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! Youtube Generally speaking, stage 2 is where most N55 owners start in terms of a turbo upgrade, as there is far more power potential with a stage 2 turbo than a stage 1 setup. XHP Stage 2 and 3 change a lot more as they increase line pressures, change shifting points and are more aggressive overall when upshifting and downshifting. _____ Without downpipes these tunes won’t offer a ton of extra power over the stage 1 tunes, with the exception of the E30 fueling map. The 91 maps (IME with both Stage 1 and 2) will be better if you are not achieving stable timing. Appreciate 0 Quote Looking for ideas / solutions for knock detected on my N55 PWG 335i. $595 software license 2. 285. It offers good "progression" through the various stages of power chasing. Remember, your MPPK tune is bypassed which means it's Stage 2 Right now I’m running the BM3 Stage 2+ E30 tune. from what i hear the n20 is already very finicky all around even without the timing Ultimately the difference between the two is negligible especially if you are just running an ots map, which to my knowledge the bm3 ots maps for pwg are more aggressive and make more low end torque. I’ve been somewhat heisitsnt and afraid of going E50 and running the OTS tune worried that the increase of timing and boost can throw for knock/timing corrections. Took this log and wanted to make sure that everything seemed okay. you The dynograph shows the Stage 2H E30 octane OTS map compared to the new Stage 2+ E30 octane OTS map on a car with a Pure Stage 2 turbo. Join Date: Jan 2011. iTrader: N55 Stage 2+ tune - reliability? N55 Stage 2+ tune - reliability? Interested in the forums thoughts on What are the pros and cons of getting/running the BM3 Stage 2 E30 map? I have an S55 M4. The car runs strong, but u think theres a boost setting i can raise a bit? 16. Dorch Stage 2. iTrader: Haven't been following up on BM3 but I know PTF BM3 Stage 2 is a beast bro, Bootmod3 is the best mod out there for BMW. I went with MHD tune after reading threads for what works better for PWG vs EWG. Drives: BMW 135i MY2011 N55 Softtop. X5 45e, 535i N54, X3 N55. Quote Then at 60K miles went BM3 Stage 1 93 with CP, IC and DP. I will upgrade those the day I go to stage 2. E81 / E82 / E87 2014 435 xdrive, running BM3 Stage 1 93 in the Northeast regionabout 50-mid 60s in temp this time of year. Like with the MHD stage 1 vs 1+, boost does not change much on the N55 stage 2+ MHD tune. Supporting mods remain the same. for PS1/PS2, it seems the way to go for most peole because of the price and it's mostly plug and play, but when I was looking around at the different turbos I did see ones by Haven't seen any dynos of BM3 stage 1 yet, but I think 50whp and 60wtq is a reasonable guess. The same basic concept applies to the N20 engine. xhpflashtool. So as stated above, run stock and log, if mileage is high change them. Page 1 of 2: 1: 2: Next: Bookmarks: twitter; Facebook; Digg; Google; StumbleUpon I’ve gone bm3 stage two with my n55 x3, but felt the delta with just our 650 bm3 stage 1 was greater than bm3 stage 2 n55 x3. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year BM3 stage 2 93Oct OTS map. Lookup Kies motor sports YouTube dyno test of B58 in 340 with catted downpipe BM3 stage 1 v stage 2 vs MPPK tunes Stage 2 made more HP not much more torque and you mostly feel torque. using a platform like BM3 which allows for tweaks, and Do check your logs - I found BM3 Stage 1 93 in the UK (using Shell V-Power) to knock a lot (e. Drives: 2015 650i XDrive Gran Coupe M. Or which one can I hold off on, or can I hold I found the stage 2+ map very similar to how you described its not that nice to drive and having data mapped it, it seems to have a lot of timing corrections and throttle closures. Although the peak gain wasn't as I currently am running the Carbahn Autoworks Stage 1 tune and love it but am curious about the differences between Stage 1 and Stage 2 tunes. Get BM3. The car is much faster and feels completely OEM. com/hh_lahContact Gary for VRSF products/Bootmod3 - 012-6491391Subscribe for more -https://www. Just installed MHD (Stage 2+) and did some driving over the past day or so. Love it, night and day difference. Regarding the OTS map, do you have some recent logs 2017 m240i xDrive 10. I'm at 75k miles at the moment, could I get away with keeping the stock spark plugs and coils? Was going to change the spark plugs and coils once I get a intercooler, intake and stage 2. If you buy a BM3 license they will provide the cable with it for no extra cost. I believe their N54 was provided by Wedge and the N55 by another company. G42Model Year: 2021 + F44Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations; F22 According to their site it's only for the N55 to upgrade the torque limits on 3rd and 5th, from my reading earlier. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. The only reason I wanted to with bm3 is cuz I know a dealer near me who will bench unlock and give me bm3 for $750. Appreciate 0 Quote 05-13-2019, 02:52 PM BM3 is better. So 10. 2 vs MM Stage2+ Release 1. Bm3 stage 2 tunes provide a decept bump when compared to stage 1; the tunes are a bit more aggressive. Instead of just me in the car I had two passengers. top ramen 125. I ran a 10. That's approximately I've seen what you have but from the MHD side of things. 218 @ 114. The latest BM3 ECU flash disables the torque limiter though. According to the posted numbers from the website which I attached, I would only be seeing a 3% difference in HP which is New Stage 1, Stage 2 and Stage 2+ OTS maps are now also available featuring 4 integrated map slots, flex fuel, antilag and all the CustomROM features. N20 stock with stage 1 bm3 OTS vs stock f30 n55 1/8 mile run. I’m currently running BM3 stage 2 OTS 91 octane map Bootmod3 Stage 2 Boost Target vs Actual? Hey everyone, I did some logging in my M2 today and noticed that the actual turbo boost pressure is like 2-2. Stage 1 you don't need any mods. Stage 1 BM3 low octane map 93 octane NJ gas Stock turbo Upgraded charge pipe VSRF DP. Most bench unlocks themselves range from $300-$400. stage 1 tune can be done with no supporting mods, stage 2 with a dp or intercooler, and they have a stage 2+ tune for a I heard some good things about BootMod3 Stage 2 93 octane. custom tune. 1. 000km The car has 32. 0 map for the b58 released in March 21 is very nice and in the description it says complete new torque and load strategy. . _____ BM3 Stage 1 93 octane datalog. Stage 1, then when you're bored you can do stage 2 at no cost (assuming you bought the $50 map 2015 X3 x35i pwg 12. It's certainly quick enough with stage 1. 135i Enthusiast. _____ 2015 435i Xdrive (Klaus) Stanced 8th Gen Honda Civic (The daily) Appreciate BM3 Stage 1 vs Stock, Dyno results. MHD Stage 1+ vs Stage 2. 5 psi below the target boost. Private First Class Does XHP Stage 1 offer any benefits aside from removing torque limiters which Bm3 already does now? I can't find anything that lists the features of Stage 1 versus Stage 2 turbo. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21Model Year I have read a lot of people saying the N55 is maxed out in terms of just adding boost but in another thread someone noted that that thinking changes with the BM3 so not really Mods: BM3 stage 2 93oct tune, VRSF Catless DP, eBay Chargepipe, Amazon intercooler Tires: 235/35R20 255/30R20 Michelin Pilot PS4 12. Also abnormal - making 350WHP at 7000RPM We took a 2011 135i which has the N55 engine and DCT and put it through the paces after flashing the MHD N55 Stage 1 OTS tune. 5 T-map sensor~ VRSF HD FMIC~ VRSF Chargepipe~ VRSF Catless Downpipe~ CTS Intake~ FTP boost pipe~ FTP intake inlet~ FTP oil catch can~ Turbosmart I have similar set up, 2013 335i RWD. I think the difference from Stage 1 to Stage 2 is close to Bootmod3 Multimap n55. S55 bm3 Stage 2 Horsepower. 94mph, 1. Can I get away with a stage 1 pump without it crashing. Appreciate 0 Quote 05-14-2019, 12:15 AM #6: burro_blasta. Appreciate Shop Real Carbon Fiber Accessories: https://www. Thanks for the info! Yes, I'm liking BM3. Quote 4. Quote 05-25-2023, 01:59 PM #9: YASBBYM3. Stock M2 N55s run ~12 psi and the overboost function can get them around 14 psi. Stage 2+ E20 Map: 400-420whp / 420-440wtq. (Something isn't right) Hopefully you get way Stage 1 MHD tunes are pretty modest, and may not be enough for some. what makes Stage 2 have 10 more hp, but far less torque? They seem to run about the same boost targets. So far VRSF chargepipe & VRSF catted downpipe. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations; F20 / F21 F30POST > Technical Forums > N55 Turbo Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust Modifications > BM3 Stage 2 93 vs. Here are some impressions after a week: 2017 BMW M2 6MT -N55 - Carbahn Stage 2. to/3CSN59nEthernet to US I'm still fully stock at the moment and have a N55 EWG F30, I wanted to do stage 1 BM3 tune with a catless downpipe and charge pipe. Installed Bm3 stage 1 91 octanes awhile back aswell as Bm3 trans flash. $50 map pack See more Got some dyno runs done with my 2014 n55 ewg 335i running bootmod3. From what I've seen you can expect N55 BM3 FBO stage2 93OCT dyno. Stage 2+ is the new OTS map that takes advantage of an N55 electronic wastegate (EWG): Stage 1 91 ocatne: 25%HP / 28%TQ Stage 1 93 octane: 27%HP / 30%TQ Stage 2 91 octane: 31%HP / 34%TQ Stage 2 93 octane: 33%HP / 36%TQ . 5 bar TMAP sensor, ordered some extra NGK97506 plugs and some new Delphi 12138616153 coils. 93 Octane: 500-520whp / 540-560wtq. Additionally, they’re easy to install and well priced for the performance gains. First impressions of BM3 Stage 1 (Updated with Stage 2 impressions) - Page 2. After data logs -- found all running well on existing plugs & gap. with the S55 which makes 410-430whp/420-440wtq stock which is hardly off what a Stage 2 EWG N55 can make. Lieutenant BM3 Stage 2 AGG vs Stage 2. Overall, I'm super happy I have a 2015 Xdrive 35i. Appreciate 1 FSociety 3883. So, on complete stock using sport displays (yes, I know it is not a right solution) it shown me somewhere close to 366 N55 BM3 Stage 1 Knock Logs. Pretty much stock except an intake. I only plan to run stage 1 93 for now. Developed and tested in-house from the ground up since its November 2016 debut with new features and TU vs Dorch Stage 1 vs. SimplyCarbonFiber. Again, you may pick up an extra . Thank you for the reply, that was another N54 MHD stage 1 dyno, not an N55. I purchased the additional $50 license for access to all the OTS maps and I installed a 5" intercooler, catless downpipe, and upgraded M2 Technical Topics > N55 Engine / Drivetrain / Exhaust / Bolt-ons / Tuning > Planning to go stage 2-tune. Utah high elevation, running Costco top tier gas. Trojantrow. G42Model Year: 2021 + F44Model Year: 2020 + Previous Generations One thing to note is that in a lot of the BM3 threads you'll see people recommending "one stage colder" for N55s, but keep in mind the M2 N55 already runs colder plugs than standard N55s. 1 fixed it 100%! I'm actually gonna disagree though, on the Stock to Stage 1 point. 0x beta tune. The little n20 Not my video, reposting for Assuming you're doing pulls near a 1:1 gear, the engine isn't heat soaked, the ambient temps are in the 50-70 degree range, and your around 1,500' or less of elevation, your MHD Stage 2 M235 boost numbers of around 16 psi is normal and consistent what I've seen for MHD Stage 2 tuned cars. Enjoy your car I'm currently running Bm3 stage 1 93 octane on my M240i pre ppf with just a BCS mid pipe res delete pipe and intake, and just purchased a BCS sports cat 100cell DP which is getting fitted next Saturday and flashing Bm3 stage 2. Let's list advantages that one has that is not offered by the other. Save Share Reply Quote Like. The Stock tune is running 12-13 psi, and the Stage 1 is 15-16 psi, with higher boost at lower RPM's. 82 was the best I was able to get on completely stock hardware and just tune changes. 93. 2017 540i with Bm3 Stage 1 dyno Everyone on FB said that the dyno is reading way low and I probably have to agree because even on my old car N55 with custom tune barely made 338 whp. Private First Class With BM3, stage 1 93+, stage 2 93 and stage 2 93+, all logged pretty good on 99RON fuel, gave similar dragy times 100-200kph, and came out around 400whp on a virtual dyno. The horsepower numbers assume you’re running the supporting mods for each BMS Stage 1 vs JB4 Review. Appreciate 1 okayekam 4. Quote Ethanol Mix Maps (up to 480HP/670NM): Stage 1, 2 and 2+ E20 Maps for ethanol blends of 20% and ST2+HPFP E40. Stage 2 tunes receive a decent boost with power in the ballpark of 340-375whp. I would just run a log WOT from 2500-6500 rpm. F40Model Year: 2019 + and know what to look out for on the F87 N55. Consult the performance charts for detailed data and additional octanes. 000km Diff oil every 10. Stage 2+ needed some ethanol to clear up timing, but ran quicker dragy times and 25whp more on virtual dyno. Is there anything I need? I found the stage 2+ map very similar to how you described its not that nice to drive and having data mapped it, it seems to have a lot of timing corrections and throttle closures. Bm3 offers off-the-shelf (OTS) flash tunes for the N55, along with custom tuning capability. But that is not what I'm seeing. Confused did OP post about his n55 in s55 forum? I just bought a license going to start with cs+ till i upgrade to 295s. Im new to the tuning thang, but this seems significant? Honestly, the power gains are going to be within 5% +/- between MHD and BM3, so it’s honestly just whatever your preference of app interface is and the slight difference in features and tunability. ACN91/93 RON: 315-325whp / 370-380wtq Bootmod3 Stage 2+ E30 octane maps for N55-EWG are now available! Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection. Map 1: 0. F40Model Year: 2019 + Previous Generations been running same mods on stage 2 bm3 for over 2 years. Follow me on Instagram for more updates - http://instagram. I went to stage 2 on BM3 after that and decided that while it was nice, a bit more power down the line would be nice. bootmod3 update - Additional and **FREE** OTS maps for N55-EWG (Stage 0+ M2) Bimmerpost ☰ Model Selection. 96 catless w/bm3 stage 2 93 ots IG: @n55david For pics and updates! I kept checking in with BM3 asking for it. Appreciate 0 Quote N55 Hybrid / '14 ActiveHybrid3 Stage 1 Tune. I'm running bm3 stage 2 with e30 and all of my logs show the car capping boost under 16. I’d personally skip stage 2, it’s kinda pointless imo. BMW n20 (Left) vs BMW n55 crime (Right). OTS tunes from bootmod3 are highly tested and proven. The N55 M2 is a perfect example of what BMW believes is the safe cap for the N55. T. We can go around and around on the pros and cons of Dinan or CarBahn (play it safe) vs. It's very clean and Dragy 0-60 and 1/8 Stock vs Stage 1 BM3 vs Stage 2 BM3. So I've heard, from everyone. 45 @ 134. E81 / E82 / E87 I'd like to see more proof to that claim, such as BM3 stage 1 dyno or AA stage 1 dyno ect. This is better in terms of heavier car with only stage 1 but still Data log - https: I will say the stock n20 chargepipe is more robust than the n55 due to the n20 being able to handle more boost than the n55 but it’s not impossible. Location: West. Whenever his customers complain about whatever with there tunes, they are always bm3 ots tunes and he converts them over to mhd tunes and he states the difference is night and day. Just have to be smart about how hard I push to keep IAT down until I have larger FMIC. 5. Sort by Oldest first Oldest first Newest first Most reactions. Appreciate 0 Quote 09-03-2018, 05:32 PM #8: Xchange43. dqggj ibzydy tdg tszbvye qaapuf wohk mtmuxvxz rre qux qkukip